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PSM III & PSPO III study groups - like Discord

Last post 02:49 am December 28, 2024 by Maciej Jarosz
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02:44 pm December 25, 2024

After only the PSM III and PSPO III left on my todo list. I'm searching for a study group to challenge my self and hope I can also help others. My Goal is not to pass the exam. It is a nice bonus... It's all about the learning journey towards it.... 

I'm going to be really thank full when you can guide me towards an study group for PSM III, I read that there are some on discord groups. Could not find them :(

Yes reading the books, blogs etc... Searching for the interaction... 


02:49 am December 28, 2024

Um, Daan, would'nt it be simpler to just ask around people who have passed or attempted those and harvest information?

Look - they've done the work and either pass/failed. I don't know about any people who have decided to "screw it, money back" and ditch the exam mid way.

People who want to attempt such exams likely do not have many ideas on what can be there, aside of descriptions and maybe some syllabuses, to be found on a website that described this or that exam.

On a side note - are those certifications even popular anymore? What's the reason one should actually invest 500$ of rather hard earned cash to attempt a written black-box, open ended exam?

I mean, during an oral exam a student can, with sound argumentation, describe a valid reasoning on why they've came to such an answer and examiners/examinators need to follow a set of criteria to judge whether the answer is good or not, and if they don't follow such criteria and instead use their own discretion then such actions sometimes can be grounds for a refund or a retake, if that discreation can be proved to be unfair.

Anyways, back to reasons, I can think of two:
- personal achievement - for those who care, sure, why not
- more pragmatic view - a trump card for interviews and/or searching for contracts - if those would prove to be a real-deal door opener to an interview then I'd consider them

A quick search through the interwebs gave me two results:
- https://www.reddit.com/r/scrum/comments/njskkt/i_hold_all_scrumorg_certifications_including_psm/?rdt=32881
- https://agilealex.medium.com/how-i-passed-scrum-orgs-pspo-iii-certification-3f0c44576b8a

Seems that PSPO3 is tied to EBM model from Scrum Org. OK. 

There are many competing models for product management:
- PMTK by Gabriel Steinhardt
- Steven Haines's works
- Rich Mironov's works
- ugh, Marty Cagan's works
- more like Roman Pichler's works, though I think his works are based around Cagan's theory - I may be wrong here
- proprietary product management models from this or that organization
- even more that I don't know of as the world is large enough

So to conclude - if one wants would like to pass an exam bound to a particular body of theory then I'd say they'd need to study syllabus, reference materials and so on dillegently AND not contaminate their learning with things that are outside of a particular exam's scope, as some models are just contradictory and why waste 500$?

You know, I have some ideas how I can use 500$. Maybe some vacations in Turkey or a trip back to Rotterdam? Maybe.


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