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It is easier to get a Product Owner position than a Scrum Master Position without any experience?

Last post 06:24 pm April 11, 2023 by Oliver Flaggl
4 replies
01:43 pm March 29, 2023

Greetings Everyone,

I just received my CSM certificate about a month ago. I noticed that there are few Scrum Master positions being offered and all of them want years of experience. 

Is it easier to land a Product Owner position without experience?  

I'm opened to getting a Product Owner certification if that is the case.

Any direction or advice is appreciated. 

Thanks,

Jeff


09:32 pm March 29, 2023

Agile and Scrum is empirical process

I am not sure how you got your certificate(which I am not intended to receive), but "without experience" actually disqualifies you as a truly competitive Scrum master or Product owner.

As a first step of coaching you into Agile mentality I kindly ask you to google "empiricism" 

By the way when I am coaching Agile team I am always starting explanation not with Toyota, Kanban or Agile manifesto, but asking everyone to take step back into ancient Greece and understand the idea of empiricism.

 


11:50 pm March 29, 2023

Hi Nicholas,

I applied your reply. I'm don't understand it though. I do understand that empiricism is learning by experience.  However, I'm looking for advise to get the ball rolling to get that experience.  

Kindly,

Jeff


06:59 pm March 30, 2023

Well, entering the field of play, where more experinced players are kicking the ball is a first step to get actual PERSONAL experience how to do things MOST SUITABLE for your character, education and skills.


06:24 pm April 11, 2023

What prior work experience, education, and skills do you have? Both roles have been created with an experienced person in mind. At the very least, a Scrum Master should have good people skills, and a Product Owner needs to know the domain. Leadership skills are beneficial for both. You don't need a certificate for either (some companies may want that, though).

 


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